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Yes, it should be allowed No, it should not be allowed
Debate Score:40
Arguments:41
Total Votes:40
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Topic 2: 8th amendment - Cruel and Unusual Punishment

"Should corporal punishment be allowed in schools?"

Yes, it should be allowed

Side Score: 21
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No, it should not be allowed

Side Score: 19
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Corporal punishment should be allowed in schools as a form of discipline

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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It doesn't cost any money, lots of punishments with in a school cost money but this does not.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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In your claim, you stated that it is a crime, but it is not a crime, It is legal in 19 states.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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Although lectures are free, they use up time that kids and teachers could be using to do work. Rather than using up time on lectures, simply hitting a child once, is simple, and doesn't waste time.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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Fast ways to change the kids behavior.

Children will learn from their lesson and not repeat the same mistake twice. If a student talks back to the teacher then he must be punished and hit so he/she knows never to do it again

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

yes but it is not a crime in 19 states, and if the parents are approving it then there is no need to call it a crime. Their parents are agreeing to this and not all parents do. Therefore, it should not be called a crime.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
yasmeenmehdi(7) Disputed
1 point

corporal punishment in schools is illegal in 31 out of 50 states for a reason. It is not at all effective, only cheap and takes less time. Would you rather save time by abusing a child? Or properly teach/“rehabilitate” a child and make them a better person?

Supporting Evidence: corporal punishment in schools (www.al.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
1 point

Hitting a child once won't cause physical or mental damage. It is just one hit, and the child will know to never misbehave again. Especially young kids aren't likely to listen to a lecture because words won't discipline them, actions will.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

Calling kids cattle is a form of verbal abuse! You can call kids an animal but hitting them because they did something bad is illegal, doesnt make sense does it!

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
DhanishthaU(16) Clarified
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I never called them cattle. I compared them to being "trained" by being spanked to the way cattle is trained. You're saying it's illegal to call them cattle but not illegal to train them like cattle?

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

By comparing them to being trained like cattle means you are referring to them as cattle and that they are treated that way when really, disciplining a child, and training an animal are two completely different things.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

Children or teenagers who have been physically punished are more likely to never ever repeat their bad behavior, and fix it instantly. In fact most students would rather take a hit than use their afterschool time sitting in a classroom getting a lecture.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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Discipline isn't overrated, it puts the kids in line and makes them behave better, rather then teachers giving uneffective lectures, that won't help the kid in the long run.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
DhanishthaU(16) Disputed
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First of all, most lectures are usually effective. They may not always be immediately effective like spanking is, but the lecture always manages to sink in eventually, either through a child's conscience or through repeated mistakes.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Corporal punishment is one of the quickest and effective ways to discipline a child who is acting up. Children who are misbehaving become a quick distraction to the entire learning environment, especially because if a teacher is spending their class time giving a lecture, it damages the other childrens learning and distracts them. Corporal punishment allows this to be dealt with in a quick and swift way.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
DhanishthaU(16) Disputed
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That's exactly why detention exists. It's a more fair way of punishing a kid who has wasted the time of a class full of other students. They waste others' time, they have to give up some of their time. Corporal punishment is hardly a fair form of punishment. For example: interrupting the teacher and coming late to class are two completely different types of misconduct, yet children get the same punishment for them both. Instead, it should be that interrupting the teacher would get the child a lecture and arriving to class late would get them a detention.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
mayasalina(13) Disputed
1 point

As well as wasting the class time with a lecture, the child is wasting more time after school, during, lunch or even on a weekend in detention. If the child is simply spanked once, it uses up a minute of the teachers and their own time, not an hour of everyone's time

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

Calling kids animals again really doesnt support your point!

I am positive one spank at school when you are 10-15 wont cause any depression, drug abuse, or other mental illness! No one ever said they would be getting hit 10 times, one time is enough for the message to sink in and on they go with their lives. They wont make the mistake and all will be well

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
DhanishthaU(16) Disputed
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Like I said before, it's never just one spank. I highly doubt one spank would be effective enough to set a child straight. The title of this website claims that "Corporal punishment...isn't effective, just cheap". To back that up, Yasmeen has already mentioned how students that are spanked perform consistently worse at school.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
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One hit at a young age is enough to set a child straight because they will know the consequences to their actions, and I highly doubt that once a child knows that they will get spanked by behaving badly, they aren't going to want to be spanked again

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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81 percent of all Americans believe that spanking is the best option for disciplining children. This means more than half of America agrees that disciplining kids physically is the way to go.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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Kids also will not be scared to go to school! They have no reason to be. As long as they do the right thing then it will be fine.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
1 point

Corporal punishment is a crime and should never be allowed at schools.

According to ‘Phil for Humanity’, “the purpose of corporal punishment is to prevent the offense or wrongdoing from happening again by instilling or associating fear with these undesired acts.” Children should not be living their lives with fear. Think about it. Children are being trained like cattle; being trained to associate pain with misconduct.

Supporting Evidence: The pros and cons of corporal punishment (www.philforhumanity.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Yes, I understand your point, but a lecture is quite effective and doesn’t need to cause any kids harm. Also, where spanking a child with a paddle is cheap, a lecture is completely free.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
1 point

Corporal punishment is illegal in 31 states and legal in 19, not the other way around

Side: No, it should not be allowed
1 point

It is legal in 19 states, therefore making it a crime in the remaining 31 states.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
1 point

Of course spanking is quicker, but would you rather save time and scar a child both mentally and physically? Or properly teach/“rehabilitate” a child and make them a better person?

Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Do you know why a kid wouldn't repeat a mistake after being spanked? It's because they would start to associate fear with any wrongdoings. To make a child live in fear is just like training cattle.

Supporting Evidence: The pros and cons of corporal punishment (www.philforhumanity.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Although it might take less time out of their lessons to give a lecture, studies show that students who are corporally punished in school “perform significantly worse executive functioning”

Supporting Evidence: science daily (www.sciencedaily.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Of course discipline is an important aspect, but some people feel like it is overrated. On a site about self-discipline, it was commented that one doesn’t really need self-discipline as long as they have the right motivation. Studies show that spanking lowers a child’s self-esteem. If a child is spanked constantly, the only proper/instinctive motivation they will have is to not get spanked.

Supporting Evidence: self discipline (www.becomingminimalist.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
taitebooth(9) Disputed
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So you are saying self discipline is over rated? That does not make sense as you are talking about how children should not be spanked in school

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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You're right that they won't get scarred with one spank, yet the same way they won't learn with one spank, either. Children usually need to be spanked multiple times for the message to sink in. They will get scarred if they get spanked constantly. Spanking can seriously bruises kids both physically and mentally. According to the American Psychology Association, “many studies have shown that physical punishment...can lead to increased aggression, antisocial behavior, physical injury and mental health problems for children [like depression]”. It can also lead to serious drug and alcohol addictions, according to NBC news.

Also, being constantly spanked as a kid could turn a person into an abusive adult. There's an old saying: “monkey see, monkey do”. This means that children who are spanked will grow up thinking that this is an acceptable means of teaching and will just spank other kids as an adult.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
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Corporal punishment will make the school like a violent environment and it is a form of child abuse.

Supporting Evidence: child abuse !!!! (www.procon.org)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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It won't make the school a violent environment because the child isn't being spanked in front of the whole school, and it isn't the kids hitting each other, it is the teachers hitting the kids with parent consent.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
1 point

There was a paddling case in Georgia where a five-year-old boy was abused. On the site, there are many other pieces of evidence. "Some argue that spanking can help drive down a child's IQ or ability to learn. Others say it triggers more aggressiveness. And child welfare advocates warn that corporal punishment — along with harsh but non-physical discipline — is often applied disproportionately to students with disabilities and those who are black, raising the chances that they will fall behind in school."

Supporting Evidence: georgia paddling case (www.nbcnews.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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The child was abused because the parent agreed to it, in fact, the mother was filming the video of the child being spanked, meaning she was completely okay with it, so there is no reason to complain about this being unfair or cruel if the childs own mother agreed to it

Side: No, it should not be allowed
DhanishthaU(16) Disputed
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What kind of a mother films their child being spanked? This just shows that the parents of that child are themselves quite abusive, because even if the mother had given permission to the teachers to spank their child, any caring mother would at least be slightly worried for their child.

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
taitebooth(9) Disputed
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Lets not forget how parents have to approve first. The students with diabilities and the students that are black, their parents are allowing the school

Side: Yes, it should be allowed
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Spanking also happens to show more bias than other forms of punishment. In one study, the numbers indicated that boys got punished more often than girls, and “blacks” were punished more often than the rest of the kids.

Supporting Evidence: nbc news (www.nbcnews.com)
Side: No, it should not be allowed
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This happens because the parents allow it more. It is possible that the black kids or the boys have parents who allow and support physical abuse more, it isn't the school just targeting these people because schools cant do it without parental consent.

Side: No, it should not be allowed
taitebooth(9) Disputed
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Their parents approve, meaning the black parents and the boys parents are allowing this!

Side: Yes, it should be allowed